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Does your daughter feel anxious when it comes to dealing with math? If yes, this episode is for you!

In the very first episode of Season 2 of the Allison Loves Math Podcast, I interview the founder of Black Girl MATHgic, Brittany Rhodes. Black Girl MATHgic is the world’s first and only subscription box dedicated to increasing math confidence and decreasing math anxiety in 3rd-8th grade girls. Brittany shares three things you can do to lessen your child’s math phobia and set your child up for success with math and STEM. 

Brittany and Allison discuss:

• What keeps Brittany driven to help students with their math struggles [2:58]
• Cool features from the Black Girl MATHgic box [5.42]
• A solution to the bias one might face while dealing with math [10.20]
• How Brittany dealt with the bias she faced from her science teacher while she was in seventh grade [11.29]
• Homework that up-levels math skills [17.09]
• How to develop confidence in learning math [18.52]
• How repeating math affirmations can help you reach your goals [25.20]

Resources

• Mathantics youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/mathantics 
• Being Mary Jane: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2345481/
• Black Girl MATHgic’s Website : https://blackgirlmathgic.com/ 
• Black Girl MATHgic’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/blackgirlmathgic/ 
• Black Girl MATHgic’s Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/blackgirlmathgic 
• Brittany Rhode’s LinkedIn : https://www.linkedin.com/in/brittanyrhodesbgm

Quick Wins

• "If you feel like you deserve to be in a certain math class, organization or group to get better with math, advocate for yourself."
• "We hear so many times, people saying that they're not math people. This is probably one of the biggest lies we have told ourselves in this society because everybody is a math person. You exist. You are a math person. There's no other prerequisite."
• "Some people are just shaped by their own life experiences. There are ways you can influence that by how you act, but you can't change people."

Book Resources

• Raise your Math Grade: Get this FREE short book, which is a toughen-up math manifesto mixed with you-can-do-it enthusiasm. It is an open educational resource, meaning you can share it freely with friends, students, and colleagues. 

• Crush Math Now:  Order this best-selling Amazon book! It is a study guide packed with all the advice Allison has given students over the years on math mindset, study skills, and test-taking strategies.
• Love Math Journal: Get this growth mindset journal to help 4th-8th grade students to succeed in and love math. This journal is co-authored by Allison and Nicole Thomson, who had been on Episode# 44 Using Gratitude to Help Students Overcome Math Anxiety.

Transcript

Allison Dillard: Welcome to the Allison Loves Math Podcast!  I am super excited to introduce today's guest Brittany Rhodes, she is the founder of an incredible business called Black Girl MATHgic. The book, Love Math Journal, co-authored by Nicole Thompson and me, was recently featured in the Black Girl MATHgic monthly subscription box. Welcome, Brittany! I'm so excited to have you here today!

Brittany Rhodes: Thank you for having me, Allison. I'm excited to be here. 

Allison Dillard: Tell us a little bit about Black Girl MATHgic. How it got started? What it is all about?.

Brittany Rhodes: Absolutely, Black Girl MATHgic is a movement to increase math confidence, awareness, and enthusiasm, agility, literacy, fluency in children, with a focus on girls and black children who are disproportionately and negatively impacted by math anxiety and the implications of math anxiety. Our flagship product is our Black Girl MATHgic box, which is the first and only monthly subscription box designed to increase math confidence and decrease math anxiety in girls on the 3rd to 8th-grade math level. I will say that, we do have a few boys who also get the box, which I think just speaks to the relevancy of the materials. We don't intentionally go out of our way to include things that are stereotypically girly. We also do workshops. We were getting them ramped up pre-covid. We've done some in-person workshops and several virtual workshops as well. We also have a kindergarten to the second-grade bundle which is a one-time bundle. We also sell math confidence products on our website and our online shop. Our goal is for every kid to know that they are a math person. For our kids, especially, our girls who struggle with confidence issues in their math abilities and boys as well, we focus on them having the math skills and also, the confidence which is necessary to apply those skills. This would help them succeed in class today, and society tomorrow.

What is driving me to do all of this? Well, number one, Math has been my favorite subject for my whole life, so, I don't have a recollection of not enjoying math. It has been something that I've enjoyed since I was a child. I'm the daughter of a retired principal, so education has always been a thing in my household. It is something (that) I have valued and cherished. Also, I have my bachelor's degree in Math from (unclear) **Spellman / Auburn** college. In addition to working in the non-profit sector, I went back to school and got my MBA, more than 10 years ago. We're supposed to have our 10-year reunion last year. Apart from this, I've always been a tutor. I had started tutoring math, in the math lab, at college, exclusively when I was 17 years old. This is when I fell in love with tutoring. It was just something about getting the light turned on in people's brains to see that they could do math or they can master a concept they previously thought was just impossible. This just brings me so much joy. So, to this day, I run Black Girl MATHgic full-time, as my full-time business. But, I also still tutor a limited number of students, I don't have as much time to tutor as I used to, but I love, love, love tutoring kids especially adults too, because I have taught GD math to adults. But, it's something about getting the kids to see that they have what it takes to do the math and that they're a math person because once we get them when they're young they're less likely to grow up with the math anxiety, the math shame and the math trauma that manifests in other ways in their lives.

Allison Dillard: Yes, I couldn't agree more. I have always loved math tutoring. That was also how I got started with tutoring in high school and then that became my part-time job through college, and then, after college, I've always done a little bit of it here and there, just because it is so rewarding. Yes, I think you're right! Math tutoring can be very powerful and it's just wonderful to see students go from having that severe math anxiety towards building their confidence and knowing how to succeed in their math class. It is one of the really awesome jobs that are out there.

Brittany Rhodes: And, you always have a job, right?

Allison Dillard: And you always have a job! It is so true. There is a level of security that it adds to your life, which is very comforting. What would you advise girls who might want to study math or do something in STEM, math tutoring? Which is actually a really good gig to get into in high school, right?!

Brittany Rhodes: Start early. One of the features of the Black Girl MATHgic box every month, is we feature a different woman mathematician and we use her story to create a real-world theme that kids can relate to. Oh, my gosh! I think it was almost a year ago, we featured a mathematician, she's an algebra teacher and also a yoga instructor. So, we were doing yoga and relaxation math which was really cool.

Allison Dillard: That is so cool!

Brittany Rhodes: She started tutoring math when she was 14 and she was like, "I was tutoring the older kids and my peers". A lot of my students are really interested in entrepreneurship and you know being their own boss, this is where we got the motivation to work on. But, they have enterprising minds and I say, ‘you could start off by tutoring. Just like teaching your peers or people.’. When I was in school, people used to sell chips and candy out of their book bags and stuff like that, and they would have thriving businesses, and so you can also be a math tutor.

Allison Dillard: That's true! I love thinking about that aspect of it. It does teach you more than math, more than a job, right?! It also teaches you entrepreneurship.

Brittany Rhodes: Absolutely!

Allison Dillard: Love that! Alright! I figured we're probably talking to middle school, some elementary, some high school girls here. So, what advice would you like to give black girls who want to set themselves up for long-term success in math and STEM?  Should they want to go on to major in something in Math and STEM in college? 

Brittany Rhodes: Absolutely! So some of the things I mentioned will be applicable to children of any racial or ethnic background. I will make some references to the particular challenges that black girls face as a doubly marginalized group, being both black and female, and how that plays into math education in the United States. So I'll talk through both of those but, first, I want the black girls specifically and the other people as well, because it's a group effort, a group assignment. You may encounter, and I say, may because, I have interviewed mathematicians and many of them have experienced bias, but I can't say all of them have experienced it. You're likely to experience bias or this concept called ‘stereotype threat’, where people will automatically assign an attitude or a form like they'll think, ‘Oh! you can't do the math, because you're a girl, or you're not going to be as good at math because you're black.’. So, these are not things that I'm making up, these are real things which have been studied using mathematics. This is a phenomenon that needs to be addressed. So, you may experience that somewhere along your journey and you may not know it, because it's not always in your faith bias, and things that people kind of project onto you are not always things that are very blatant. Sometimes, it can be very small, it could be, something like you want to be in this advanced math class and you have the credentials but, an adult doesn't think you will do well, or something along those lines. So, the first thing I would recommend is to always be an advocate for yourself, and you can do this as a kid. You can definitely be an advocate for yourself, you will probably need an adult or some type of adult champion to help you champion the cause, but be an advocate for yourself. If you feel like you deserve to be in a certain math class or in a certain math organization or a certain math group to get better, to advance, advocate for yourself even if no one is advocating for you if you're trying to do it through the traditional channels. (Just to be clear,) When I say advocate for yourself, I mean speak up. This was something I just struggled with as a kid. I was always scared to speak up for myself so it's something I had to work on. So, I speak this from experience, not wanting any other kids to experience this. Be able to speak up for yourself. Recognize that some people are just shaped by their own life experiences and there are ways, you can influence that through how you act, but you can't change people.

Brittany Rhodes: So that would be my first piece of advice.

Allison Dillard: I think, that's a really good piece of advice and I do relate to what you say, in a sense of just being shy, and how it's such a hard thing for girls or students to (speak up) especially when they're younger because they don't necessarily know how to do that for themselves. I think it's definitely easy for us as adults because we have the experience, so we know how to do that. Also, since we've seen the consequences of not advocating for ourselves, and there are times, where you look back and wish if you had (advocated for yourself). And so, one of the things, that, I think, could be really helpful for that, especially for students who are shy and that idea makes them nervous, is to think about who's on your support team, these could be teachers, adults or your friends who you can go to and talk about these things. So if you feel like you want an opportunity, but you're afraid to ask for (it). You feel like somebody said something to you that puts you down, you definitely want to make sure that you have people in your life, who support you, who you can talk to about these things, and who can teach you how to advocate for yourself.

Brittany Rhodes: Yes, and actually I have an example of how this showed up in my life and I'll share it very quickly. I, also, want to advise that sometimes, it may show up people who look like you because some people of color, some women were victims of patriarchy and supremacy. We were victims of that as well. So, I had a science teacher in my seventh grade, middle school,(which is a STEM subject) and I remember, I was always a very curious child and I loved school. Still to this day, I just love to learn. Something about it just makes me really happy. And, so, I would ask a lot of questions in her class, and I know this because I didn't know at the time, but I'm an empath like a real on a textbook empath, and I pick up on energy and so I noticed when I asked her question, it seemed like she would give an attitude to me when I started asking questions. So, I remember mentioning to my mother (a retired principal now, an educator then) that, G, this teacher seems like every time I ask a question she gives an attitude and I got to see them in her class. I don't think it was the final grade, I think, it was in the middle of the semester. However, I'm forgetting how we used to do report cards (inaudible) I don't know and so at the parent-teacher conference, my mother, in this case, (she) was my champion. My mother has always been very serious about my education and she also knew that she had a sensitive child. So, anytime there was an issue she was up at school. Oh! At the parent-teacher conference she said, "You know, Brittany said you seem to get a little bit, a little bit bothered when she asks questions in class.". Then, the teacher was like, "Well, she does ask a lot of questions."  And, then, my mother, being an educator, said, "But, you are the teacher! You are there to answer the student's questions! She is not a C student in math,that is not how I'm  raising her.". This (happened) a long time ago, so we can also have other conversations about grades, and what they mean, but when I was coming up, this scene was not something that was ideal, so I don't remember what I ended up with in her class. It wasn't a C. But just having an adult to speak up for me when I couldn't speak up for myself was very important because that gave me an extra boost of confidence to say, "Okay I'm not alone in this. I'm not figuring out my education alone. ". So, I just wanted to provide an example, in case that could be helpful, because sometimes examples are helpful rather than just saying here's what you need to do.

Allison Dillard: Yes, definitely I feel like the stories are always the most helpful. It just helps understand everything. Alright! I think that's a really good example, and, I think, for students, maybe who don't have parents. I think you and I are very fortunate and that we had parents who advocated and helped us with all of those things. If your student who doesn't have parents or they're just not comfortable navigating the school system because that can be very intimidating, (it is good to) know that you can find a champion for yourself within school.

Brittany Rhodes: Absolutely!

Allison Dillard: You can look back at your teachers that did really support you. (The teachers) who felt like they would fight for you. Know if there's someone that you can talk to  and they don't have to be your current teachers.

Brittany Rhodes: They can be teacher aides, they could be the secretary in the office, they can be your counselor. There's so many people. Absolutely!

Allison Dillard: Yeah! Perfect! Cool! Next tip.

Brittany Rhodes: So my next tip is around studying. So students, my love, you will find that my tips may actually be irritating for some of you, because, I don't have a magic bullet for you, I don't have a get rich quick scheme for you. All of my tips come from applying pure consistent, regular hard work because that's just with most things in life that are worth having. The magic is in the routine, the magic is in the mundaness of it all. So, my next tip is around studying, and this is one that comes directly from having been a tutor for as long as I have. So, I see that many of my students, not all of them, but many feel like, "Okay, I did the homework, I did what the teacher assigned, I'm done.". You are not done, especially if you don't fully understand, whatever it is being studied at this point in time, I see this a lot with some of the basics (concepts), that you're going to need, not only for school but for the rest of your life.For example, fractions, negative numbers, decimals etc and also manipulating those numbers. So, what do I mean by learning to manipulate those numbers? I mean learning how to add them, learning how to subtract them, learning how to multiply, then learning how to divide them. Those three things, in particular, and, I (would also) add percentages to that, but, definitely fractions and negative numbers. As an example, if you have done the homework, if you have done what the teacher assigned and you are still not comfortable with the concept and how to apply it, you are not done, which means, you should be continuing to study. Studying does not just mean doing the homework, it also means doing things outside of the homework, outside of class, outside of school. (You need) to get really comfortable with the concept, because as Allison shared in the live, we did on Saturday or Sunday. As Allison shared, as math advances, and of course there are some concepts, you can learn at the same time as others. You don't necessarily have to learn them on the stairs. You can learn some things at the same time.

Brittany Rhodes: But you want to have some concepts that you're really comfortable with because they're going to keep showing up. And, you might have to keep relearning them, because you didn't take the time to get comfortable with them when you were learning them initially. So, what does it mean to study outside of the homework ? Great question! I'm glad you asked.

Brittany Rhodes: The beautiful thing about the environment, you guys are learning in, is that you have the Internet available to you which Allison and I didn't have.

Brittany Rhodes: The computers were just coming out. Probably by age, I'm 36. I don't care, I tell my age. I got my first computer when I was 12, but they were out before that, but they weren't as accessible (as they are now) and there definitely was no YouTube.There were no  Apps, there was no such thing as an APP, an application with a piece of paper or two which you used to apply for a job. That means, your studying can be tailored a little bit more to your liking, than it could for Allison and I. We just had textbooks, worksheets. I mean there was some outdoor play, we could do as well. But, the recommendations from YouTube is a great resource for studying. There's one channel, in particular, that I really like and I'm blanking on the name, Allison, maybe you can help me. It's a guy and he does really cool math videos. Oh, my gosh! Why am I forgetting his name? Oh my gosh! Hopefully, I'll remember it, if not, we can just put it in the show notes.

Allison Dillard: Yeah! we can put them in the show notes 

Brittany Rhodes: His videos are just really engaging. They're really cool. He has videos on, I feel, like, probably every basic math concept, so you can literally type in his Youtube name into the YouTube bar and then type in whatever concept you're working through to get some extra on-the-job training. You also do this, not just with his videos, but there are tons of other videos that you can check out if video is a way that you learn. Not everybody learns through videos or feels that videos are effective and that's fine too. I would also like to recommend, if you're into music or you're into writing ( or some other skill, use it )to help you learn math. So, if you're into music, make a song about different concepts, especially ones that you aren't comfortable with, and use it to remember (the concept). I still remember the song grandma had (created / sung) when I was a kid to help me learn different concepts (which were not just restricted to math but ) learning in general. If you are into writing, write a poem, write a short story about negative numbers, write a short story about fractions, and, of course, use the resources you have available to you. That's my second recommendation, using what you have available to you. Not everybody has the internet, but if you have (that is great). (You could use) A sidewalk! If you have some chalk go outside and draw the math concepts in the chalk. It doesn't have to always be paper and pencil.  Some kids don't like worksheets, I understand. Sometimes, they can feel very bored. So, make it fun for you. Use what you like and know your kids and you're still learning about what you like, but I'm sure there's something (that) you would know that you like now. Even if you like to jump rope, Oh! you can use that to study your multiplication facts. There's so many things you can do. Just get creative.This is one of the beautiful things about being a young person. There is creativity that the world hasn't tried to knock out of us yet so use that to your advantage. So that's my second tip.

Allison Dillard: That's good! I really like that, and I feel like knowing when you need to go back and study a little bit more is a really key component to being successful long term in math and STEM. Because, I do see lots of students, who like you said, can just follow exactly what the teacher wants them to do, but they don't have that sense of when they don't know it (understand it). So, that is, something that you definitely need to practice. You (must) think at the end of your homework assignment - Do I get this? Does this all make sense to me? Or is this something where I need a little bit of extra practice? Also, I agree, YouTube is such a phenomenal resource for students, there are just so many (educational channels), if you don't like one person on there who explains it, then there's somebody else. There is no excuse. You'll be able to find somebody who can explain something to you the right way and then, of course,the key to that too is to remember to practice. I always compare math to soccer and I feel like watching math videos is helpful to learn and understand something, but then you've got to go practice it. It's sort of the equivalent of watching soccer videos. You watch the video,  (know) how it is that you do something, but ultimately, you're going to have to get back out on the field and practice. Also, knowing when to practise and then experimenting with how it is that you learn the best way, and figuring that out, is an ongoing process and something that will be so valuable in the future.

Brittany Rhodes: Yes, I think, that's a great point to bring up, I think, one good way for students is to test yourself and see whether you understand the concept, is to see, if you can explain it to somebody else. So, you can explain it to a peer or if you have an adult in your life, who you can say, “Hey, I want to sit down and explain how to divide fractions.”. If you find that it feels like it is making sense to you (that is good). If you have some notes, you can refer to check back and see if you explained it properly. That's a really good way to know, to see if you actually have learned, or if you feel like you're comfortable enough to explain it to somebody else, then you can have some level which you would probably need to study, because that's just how things are, but you can do a self-check and say, "Okay, I think I'm getting more comfortable with this, because, last week I couldn't explain the first step and I was able to get through, multiple steps. I found the YouTubers name, I had to Google it. It's math antics. (https://www.youtube.com/user/mathantics)  It was on the tip of my tongue. His videos are great.

Allison Dillard: Awesome! Alright, let's see! I think we probably have enough time for one more tip. What's the last one?

Brittany Rhodes: So, I'll take it back to what we include every month in the Black Girl MATHgic boxes, and that is, a math affirmation and I actually have one right here that I hold up. So this one was from our January 2021 Black Girl MATHgic box. We featured somebody who works at a bank, and it was all about banking math, the money math, the math our kids love to talk about. This particular affirmation says, 'my math confidence, much like my future bank account, never stops increasing'. So, affirmations for our students listening if you're not familiar with them; they're positive statements that typically use the words - I or me or my or something where you're reading it and you're thinking about it from a first-person point of view and it's designed to motivate you to be positive. The affirmations can be about anything if you Google affirmations for kids or even just the word-‘affirmations’ all kinds of stuff will come up.It'll say - 'I am happy', 'I am healthy', 'I am whole'. The idea is that when you look at those types of statements on a regular basis, and I know some people who actually write affirmations in the mirror, or they take notes and post them around their house. There's a TV show that was on a few years ago with Gabrielle Union called 'Being Mary Jane' and she just had posted notes, like all over her house with different statements. The idea that you see these things enough and they'll actually start happening in your life, and so this is not some kind of pie in the sky or a magic potion. There's some science behind this, there's some psychology behind the things that happen to our brain and how we approach situations that are difficult for us when we start giving ourselves these positive messages and reinforcing these motivational, inspirational messages.So, what we do is, we just take that concept and every month there's a different math affirmation in the box so it's always focused on math.The first very first box, we did July 2019 so two years ago, the math affirmation was very simple- 'I am a math person'. That's it, because we hear so many times people saying that - they're not math people, which is actually probably one of the biggest lies we told ourselves in this society because everybody is a math person. You exist, you are a math person. That's it. There's no other prerequisite, there's no other requirement. So, I have one customer whose sister gets the boxes, and one time she sent me a picture. She's been getting back, since the very beginning. She had all her affirmation posted up on her window, so, every day when she gets up in her bedroom, she sees these positive statements about math and her ability to do the math and to be a learner and doer of mathematics. After a while, you don't have any choice but to start believing that. We do have a few affirmations on our Instagram page. If any of you are on Instagram and your parents allow you to use Instagram, I always encourage students, and I say this to teachers from the teacher groups as well - ‘Have your students create their own math affirmations’. One of the ways I like to recommend doing this is setting a timer, say, for 30 seconds, or, maybe for 60 seconds and writing it down. For my students, and also, teachers if you're listening, make your students do this - Write down all the ways you feel about math right now and don't censor yourself. You could say - 'I hate math, it's the worst subject on earth', or you could be somebody who already loves it -' I love it! It's great!. I can't wait to go into a STEM major in college. I can't wait to be a math teacher'. Note down, however you feel about math, just take 30 to 60 seconds and brain dump it onto a sheet of paper faster because we got to get everything out. Then, once you get them out; take a little breather, grab a little water, do a little stretch, maybe some angle stretches, give yourself a 90 second practice  with your angles, or with how you stretch your body and then, next, take a little more time to write affirmations around how you want to feel about math or how you want math to go for you in the future. I will not say too many things, because I really don't want to prescribe how this should go, but, if I can provide an example because, I know they can be helpful. So, if your affirmation says, or if your brain dump says- 'Today, I hate math!'. You want to take that negative feeling about it, or that like not-so-great feeling, and then turn it into a positive statement using I, My, Me or a combination of those things, so you could say it could say- 'Oh! I hate math!' on my brain dump and your affirmation could be this is how I want to feel about math later, it could be -'I enjoy math! I understand how it works in my life.' And then, after you've done that, as Allison said, you have to apply this affirmation, so you can just write it NOT in the sticky notes side of a book that you never look at or throw it in the trash. You have to actually say this affirmation or read it every single day. Every day, especially if you're a child who doesn't enjoy math at all, or you can't find anything you like about it. You need to take some time with the affirmation every single day, and it doesn't have to be a 20-30-minute affair. It can just be something you look at in the morning, or, before you go to bed,  or before you take a test. And over time, you will see that your actions will start to match with that affirmation or those affirmations because you can definitely write, as many of you would want to show up in your life. 

Brittany Rhodes: So, give it a try. Some of my caring adults, even before they started subscribing to Black Girl MATHgic I know some parents or other caring adults and teachers have done affirmations with their students so I'm sure some students listening may be familiar with them already, but if you're not familiar or if you haven't done them in a while, give them a try again. They really do work, and I say this as somebody who never thought they would be in business. This is still crazy to me. Being able to have these positive talks with myself has really allowed me to grow in ways that I could not have imagined.

Allison Dillard: Yes, yes, definitely and I think students, especially those of you who don't like math or maybe feel like you're not good at math or have math anxiety is this is really helpful because if you think about how much you say certain things to yourself in your head, every day, and I know some of my students who have struggled in math they're sitting in my math class going- 'I can't do this, I'm not a math person', 'I can't do this'. How many times that thought goes through their head in one class and then you multiply that by days and weeks, and then years, and then you've actually told yourself these negative statements over and over and over and over again. It's really hard to break out of that. So the affirmations can help you break out of that, because you need something to counter those negative thoughts, so instead of saying, ‘I am not a math person, I can’t do hard things.’ if you can replace them with something positive (it would be great). It's like Brittany said, it's not one day that it's going to make a difference, but it's repeating it over and over and over again.

Allison Dillard: Take it a year later and you said those things to yourself 365 times. You're going to be a different person in a different mindset and the more you do it, the more positively, you can change.

Brittany Rhodes: Because like you said Allison when you're telling yourself - ' I can do the math' that's exactly what's happening.

Allison Dillard: Exactly! Absolutely! That is great advice! Britney, I love it! Awesome! Well, thank you so much! Before we go, will you tell everybody again where they can get the Black Girl MATHgic boxes because they are an amazing resource that goes along with the affirmations, that go along with everything that we talked about today. It contains the tools that they need to love and succeed and math. Tell us again where we can find those.

Brittany Rhodes: Yes, so we are online at https://blackgirlmathgic.com/. So, Black Girl MATHgic is play on a popular term in the black Community called Black Girl Magic. We didn't create that term, but we just kind of put our own fun spin on it, I love us having a good time. BlackgirlMATHgic is Black Girl M A T H gic.com (https://blackgirlmathgic.com/) that's our website. You can also find us on instagram and on Facebook we're also on Twitter and YouTube. Although my social media strategy for Twitter and YouTube needs a little bit of work. But, we're there, we have a presence and you can find all the links to our social media sites on our website https://blackgirlmathgic.com/ and you can subscribe and get a one-time box. We get a lot of people getting boxes for birthdays, Christmas etc and we have other cool products in there as well, so check us out.

Allison Dillard: Perfect! I will also add, that, if you are a teacher, too, who happens to be listening this for the students. The Black Girl MATHgic boxes can make a great a resource for school, for your classroom, so you can look into that, as well as, some other things to help you out in the classroom too.

Brittany Rhodes: Yes, we do bulk orders. Thank you Allison. I always forget to say that, and I know if my mother is listening, she's probably like, ‘Don't forget to say that! We do bulk orders.’ and then we also have teachers who subscribe as everyday customers for their classrooms so please reach out to us. Teachers, we can't wait to work with you.

Allison Dillard: Awesome! Well, thank you so much, Brittany! And if you are listening today, Thank you so much for listening. I will see you in the next interview bye.

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Book Resources

• Raise your Math Grade: Get this FREE short book, which is a toughen-up math manifesto mixed with you-can-do-it enthusiasm. It is an open educational resource, meaning you can share it freely with friends, students, and colleagues. 

• Crush Math Now:  Order this best-selling Amazon book! It is a study guide packed with all the advice Allison has given students over the years on math mindset, study skills, and test-taking strategies.
• Love Math Journal: Get this growth mindset journal to help 4th-8th grade students to succeed in and love math. This journal is co-authored by Allison and Nicole Thomson, who had been on Episode# 44 Using Gratitude to Help Students Overcome Math Anxiety.